Hello out there,
I'm having a problem. Well, my Moho is having a problem. It's being a punk. I'll explain...
I've been through the tutorials, help forums, etc... so I'm very competent at shape and style creation, buuuuuuuut, when I go to apply style "A" to a shape, Moho does some funky thing where it doesn't apply it. When I press the space bar, it somehow switches to the default colors. It refuses to apply ANY style I create. This software stubbornness is driving me insane. I almost broke my keyboard.
I'm thinkin' it might be a bug.
If anyone can help, I will love you forever. Or at least, give you a smiley.
Many thanks to you all.
Shape Styles - problemo
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A closed curve can have several fills and several outlines attached to it, which can be a bit confusing, because when you give one fill a certain style, and the fill above it is transparent except for certain layers, you can have unexpected results if you don't know about it.
About the several fills to one curve. Look at this example screenshot:
You can count the points, there are 33 points. You can count the curves; there are 7 curves (mouth, two pupil, two eye whites, a head shape and a shape within the head shape—partially covering the eye whites). You can count the shapes; there are 6 shapes (two pupils, two eye whites, a shape for the entire head and the mouth and a shape for the shadow over the upper halve of the head).
Now supose I decided to change the fill of the shadow (now alpha value of 64 and I want 128), but I did it the wrong way, by using the Create Shape tool, instead of the Select Shape tool.
In the screenshot you can see, there has one shape been added, when you might not think so. The "head shadow curve" simply has two shapes on top of each other.
So, I suggest you check if you have more shapes in you design than you can visually account for. You may even use my LayerScript for that, by downloading the project ZIP archive I made for this reply:
• Shape Styles - problemo.zip (45 KB)
About the several fills to one curve. Look at this example screenshot:
You can count the points, there are 33 points. You can count the curves; there are 7 curves (mouth, two pupil, two eye whites, a head shape and a shape within the head shape—partially covering the eye whites). You can count the shapes; there are 6 shapes (two pupils, two eye whites, a shape for the entire head and the mouth and a shape for the shadow over the upper halve of the head).
Now supose I decided to change the fill of the shadow (now alpha value of 64 and I want 128), but I did it the wrong way, by using the Create Shape tool, instead of the Select Shape tool.
In the screenshot you can see, there has one shape been added, when you might not think so. The "head shadow curve" simply has two shapes on top of each other.
So, I suggest you check if you have more shapes in you design than you can visually account for. You may even use my LayerScript for that, by downloading the project ZIP archive I made for this reply:
• Shape Styles - problemo.zip (45 KB)
Rasheed -
Thank you very much for your explanation and the time you took to post your examples, and ZIP file. Very generous of you.
Unfortunately, it didn't directly answer my question. That was probably my fault for not being clear on my issue.
Allow me to elaborate with some basic examples. I'll explain in steps -
1. I create a very simple closed line.
2. The shape is selected. Note the default colors, which I did not edit.
3. Spacebar is pressed. Shape was created, using those default colors, or style. Everything is working as normal to this point.
This is where it gets frustrating...
1. I start over with a simple closed line. This time I create a new style, and name it "Style 1".
2. I select the shape while that style is activated.
3. Spacebar is pressed and....back to the defaults.
Am I doing something out of order, or is this truly a bug in the software?
Thanks again Rasheed!!
Thank you very much for your explanation and the time you took to post your examples, and ZIP file. Very generous of you.
Unfortunately, it didn't directly answer my question. That was probably my fault for not being clear on my issue.
Allow me to elaborate with some basic examples. I'll explain in steps -
1. I create a very simple closed line.
2. The shape is selected. Note the default colors, which I did not edit.
3. Spacebar is pressed. Shape was created, using those default colors, or style. Everything is working as normal to this point.
This is where it gets frustrating...
1. I start over with a simple closed line. This time I create a new style, and name it "Style 1".
2. I select the shape while that style is activated.
3. Spacebar is pressed and....back to the defaults.
Am I doing something out of order, or is this truly a bug in the software?
Thanks again Rasheed!!
You need to select your shape with the Select Shape tool and then select a style in one of the Applied Styles option lists. You can't apply a style by selecting a style in the Styles option list, you need one of the Applied Styles for that.
After selecting the shape, apply a style through one of these option lists
BTW You used the Create Shape tool to add another shape to the selected curve, just as I suspected when reading your original post in this thread. Your curve has now two outlines and two fills of the default style on top of each other.
I think this is a typical mistake new Moho users make when they are used to the user interface of drawing programs like Corel Draw, Illustrator, etc. Moho has a radical different method of putting fills and outlines on curves.
After selecting the shape, apply a style through one of these option listsBTW You used the Create Shape tool to add another shape to the selected curve, just as I suspected when reading your original post in this thread. Your curve has now two outlines and two fills of the default style on top of each other.
I think this is a typical mistake new Moho users make when they are used to the user interface of drawing programs like Corel Draw, Illustrator, etc. Moho has a radical different method of putting fills and outlines on curves.
Last edited by Rasheed on Thu Jan 19, 2006 8:05 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Like I explained in my edited reply, it is a typical mistake new Moho users make. It took me a while before I understood what vector layers are about:
- points
- curves
- shapes
- outlines and fills
- open and closed curves
Curves can be connected to create a combined curve, which can have overlapping shapes. Curves that are within curves can be used to create holes in a shape.
And lots more, for instance, you can overlay shapes to create elaborate fills, thus mimicking fills by other programs.
- points
- curves
- shapes
- outlines and fills
- open and closed curves
Curves can be connected to create a combined curve, which can have overlapping shapes. Curves that are within curves can be used to create holes in a shape.
And lots more, for instance, you can overlay shapes to create elaborate fills, thus mimicking fills by other programs.