character's arm technique ideas !!

Egyptianboy · Post by **Egyptianboy** » Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:53 pm

Hi , everybody
for me , animating characters, is very fun, but animating arms !!
elbow joint area is always pain , i manipulate the lower arm bone , when elbow area starts destorting
strokes conflicts , points intersects , or any other non_smooth looking
well, what the profs. do ? do they create the arm in one shape , two shapes ?
two layers ? two bones ? extra child bones for elbow points ? sorry i can't delever a clear question ( bad ENGLISH matter)
maybe i need to see a file or an image for one good ( boned-arm ) to study the technique of shaping , layering ,
binding , stroking the arm parts
that i never find on video tut , or manuals , or library its pure personal experience and solution sense
in short ( really need to steal a professional technique in good looking & working arm )
appreciate any reply

funksmaname · Post by **funksmaname** » Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:04 pm

there are quite a few techniques which you will find searching the forum. If you're using version 8 overlapping two shapes and using a patch layer at the elbow is probably the most beginner friendly.

there are techniques using two shapes, one shape and multiple bones, or even using thick strokes with double edges - I highly reccomend you search the tips and techniques and read threads as you will not only find how to make arms, but stumble across MANY amazing techniques which you're going to need...

Egyptianboy · Post by **Egyptianboy** » Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:32 pm

sure i will follow your advices , maybe not version 8 one ( just updating-phobia matter )
also you had gave me many options , that's scary for me ( hesitate type ) LOL !!
appreciate your time , i like your cool avatar

GCharb · Post by **GCharb** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 1:37 am

Hello Egyptianboy.

As funksmaname said, there are several ways to rig a limb.

Here are some I like

An arm rig, asp 6.2 I think
http://cid-32c59c444d3eca96.office.live ... rm-rig.zip

A shoulder rig, asp 7.1 I think
http://cid-32c59c444d3eca96.office.live ... er-rig.zip

And a patch layer rig, asp 8, this time I am pretty sure!
http://cid-32c59c444d3eca96.office.live ... -layer.zip

I am working on a blog where I will post videos on making those in the next few days!

Hope this helps!

Post by **Víctor Paredes** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 1:43 am

For me, the definitive arm rig is Mandcon's arm. In version 8 patch layers works for most of the cases, but this rig still working for curve arms and other cool stuff.

Egyptianboy · Post by **Egyptianboy** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 2:54 am

can't belive it...
hello guyz first , and grateful for your valuable time & help
was crying...can't belive this mandcon arm rig , awesome simple yet effective and clean
six points elbow yet animatable perfectly , real professional minds
your files guys are treasures

thank you GCharb , thank you selgin , appreciate your help

sbtamu · Post by **sbtamu** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 2:59 am

sbtamu · Post by **sbtamu** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 3:07 am

I use this arm/leg rig on all my characters. I did a 3d test character that uses the same rig and it worked well also. Sorry for my bad tutorial on that video(if you looked at it) I forgot to include the mouse pointer in the capture device and it makes bad viewing. I have even used the rig on fingers and a giant foot that smashes a stickman character.

Egyptianboy · Post by **Egyptianboy** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 3:20 am

stickman slaps hand , hahahah , amazing , sbtamu

you rule man , idon't want to ask you about your technique , i bet it's too complicated with many apps.
hope you keep it up , thanks sbtamu
may i suggest . your style as a show , especially for middle east TVs
it could be very popular family show , think about it

GCharb · Post by **GCharb** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 3:22 am

Hello again!

Never used the mandcon rig, but many swear by it!

sbtamu, I grabbed your vid, hope you do not mind!!!

sbtamu · Post by **sbtamu** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 3:27 am

GCharb wrote:Hello again!

Never used the mandcon rig, but many swear by it!

sbtamu, I grabbed your vid, hope you do not mind!!!

Gilles

Nah, anything I post is for any one to use. If I want it to not be used I always put a watermark(sbtamu) on it.

Egyptianboy · Post by **Egyptianboy** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:14 am

MR. selgin
i wonder if anime studio can produce all these advanced projects !!! just you & AS ?!!

great compilation , sir[/quote]

sbtamu · Post by **sbtamu** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:32 am

Egyptianboy wrote:stickman slaps hand , hahahah , amazing , sbtamu
you rule man , idon't want to ask you about your technique , i bet it's too complicated with many apps.
hope you keep it up , thanks sbtamu
may i suggest . your style as a show , especially for middle east TVs
it could be very popular family show , think about it

Actually I just used Anime Studio and a video camera. I have a tripod/camera set up over my work station and a rig set up on my desk that holds the paper steady and after I draw something I leave my hands in view of the camera and I have my kids pull paper off the stack really fast. In post I delete 2-4 frames that might show my kids hands removing paper.

Egyptianboy · Post by **Egyptianboy** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:56 am

Egyptian to sbtamu :
I see , good for you sir.
i hope to enjoy more of stickman , my kid loved it , a living interacting cartoon character