Hey guys, got a question I've been trying to tackle myself over the last two days but I'm getting a bit frustrated. Oddly enough it's not about AS functions. I picked up Sony Vegas and I'm having some frustration with rendering.
1.) All clips are in 1080 30fps format. Full, no compression Quicktime.
2.) I get 'em in Vegas and they look great in the preview.
3.) This is the part I'm having an issue with. When I render, I'm using WMV 11 8HD compression. Why? I dunno, looking at the numbers it looked like the best method to use to retain HD quality but if I'm wrong feel free to correct me. Anyway, the final product doesn't look that great. The black turns to more of a "light black" grainy look and the animation just doesn't look as sharp. I understand that when you compress a file that it shouldn't look as good as the original uncompressed version. I get that. But I would expect it to look better then this. I would expect black to be, you know, BLACK.
Any information would be REALLY appreciated as I'm basically just in the "slap it all together and get it out the door" phase and I'm dissappointed with the visual quality I'm coming up with.
When it comes to settings I'm trying to use the best settings but admittedly, I'm not fully comprehending what ALL these numbers mean so I may not be making the best choices. I make sure that rendering quality is set to best. I make sure the format is 1080p just like the clips that come out of AS. I'm using progressive scan. When I see numbers that I don't know what they mean I jack it up to the biggest on the list.
Thanks for your time.
Having rendering problems with final production
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I use Quicktime codec with high values for output, not as small as say h-264 but it looks lossless at a decent size!
Maybe h-264 would do it for you, a bit of color loss, but it retains good overhaul image quality.
In any codec, you get setting values, usually the higher means better quality but larger size, I do not use wmv, but I am sure it uses those settings as well.
Maybe if you showed the final render we could tell what could be done for better quality.
G
Maybe h-264 would do it for you, a bit of color loss, but it retains good overhaul image quality.
In any codec, you get setting values, usually the higher means better quality but larger size, I do not use wmv, but I am sure it uses those settings as well.
Maybe if you showed the final render we could tell what could be done for better quality.
G
I'm a douche...
Ok. Well, I tried EVERY different combination I could possibly imagine with all the rendering settings in Vegas Pro. Find a rendering format on the list, I used it at least 4 times with varying settings throughout. After two days I figured my problem out. Well not two WHOLE days. More like... oh I dunno... 17 and a 1/2 hours I figured out my friggin problem.
Windows media player plays pretty much everything like crap. I throw it up on youtube just for giggles to see how it comes out and *bam*. Looks gorgeous. Talk about a serious time sink in order to learn a lesson.
BTW:
I ended up using WMV 8Mbps HD 1080-30p Video with 1.333 pixel aspect ratio. Windows media video 9 format. The 45 sec test video only came out to be like 9.5 megs. So I'm assuming that a 10 minute video is going to come out at around 125 megs. ish. Seems a bit small. Any Vegas Pro users have any recommendations to beef up the visual quality (now that I know I'm not insane). I mean 125 megs is nothing really. Got plenty of room to beef it up some.
Ok. Well, I tried EVERY different combination I could possibly imagine with all the rendering settings in Vegas Pro. Find a rendering format on the list, I used it at least 4 times with varying settings throughout. After two days I figured my problem out. Well not two WHOLE days. More like... oh I dunno... 17 and a 1/2 hours I figured out my friggin problem.
Windows media player plays pretty much everything like crap. I throw it up on youtube just for giggles to see how it comes out and *bam*. Looks gorgeous. Talk about a serious time sink in order to learn a lesson.
BTW:
I ended up using WMV 8Mbps HD 1080-30p Video with 1.333 pixel aspect ratio. Windows media video 9 format. The 45 sec test video only came out to be like 9.5 megs. So I'm assuming that a 10 minute video is going to come out at around 125 megs. ish. Seems a bit small. Any Vegas Pro users have any recommendations to beef up the visual quality (now that I know I'm not insane). I mean 125 megs is nothing really. Got plenty of room to beef it up some.
You are right, the playback on windows media player and movie maker are just are terrible but....if u just ignore the bad quality and just use those tools as steps to the final cut then they are OK. I render in AS in HD and use WMM to edit and i just have to trust what i know about my video and they come out in HD on YT but look bad in wmm and player.XFracture wrote:I'm a douche...
Ok. Well, I tried EVERY different combination I could possibly imagine with all the rendering settings in Vegas Pro. Find a rendering format on the list, I used it at least 4 times with varying settings throughout. After two days I figured my problem out. Well not two WHOLE days. More like... oh I dunno... 17 and a 1/2 hours I figured out my friggin problem.
Windows media player plays pretty much everything like crap. I throw it up on youtube just for giggles to see how it comes out and *bam*. Looks gorgeous. Talk about a serious time sink in order to learn a lesson.
BTW:
I ended up using WMV 8Mbps HD 1080-30p Video with 1.333 pixel aspect ratio. Windows media video 9 format. The 45 sec test video only came out to be like 9.5 megs. So I'm assuming that a 10 minute video is going to come out at around 125 megs. ish. Seems a bit small. Any Vegas Pro users have any recommendations to beef up the visual quality (now that I know I'm not insane). I mean 125 megs is nothing really. Got plenty of room to beef it up some.
and VLC is a good FLV player but i dont like the way it ads the street cone icon to all my AVIs on my computer.
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Vegas rendering
XFracture, I'm not sure what to tell you as far as your file size. I also use Vegas to render as a WMV, and I'm not even doing the full 1080p -- I'm doing 720p. Even so, a recent 12 minute, 30 second video that I rendered in Vegas at 720p in WMV format came out at 525 MB. Nearly 5 times the size of what you seem to be getting at 1080p. Are you sure you don't have a setting dialed down somewhere else?
You may want to try Lagarith or Divx. Lagarith is my all time favorite. If Divx, try quality based 1 or 2.XFracture wrote:Training video(s) for work. Digital projector so the best possible res/clarity that I can get w/o it being a completely uncompressed file is what I'm shooting for. If I can maintain a 1080p res with a sharp picture and keep a 12min video under a gig I'd be more than happy.
http://lags.leetcode.net/codec.html
http://www.divx.com/en/win