New character for Short

Acochran_89 · Post by **Acochran_89** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 2:39 am

Hello everyone, I just thought I'd share one of the character designs for a new short I'm working on. What do you guys think?? Any advise, tips, comments, concerns, or whatever??

human · Post by **human** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 5:02 am

Hey, I like it!

Acochran_89 · Post by **Acochran_89** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 5:04 am

Thanks!!

themonster · Post by **themonster** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 11:14 pm

cute!!!

mkelley · Post by **mkelley** » Wed Mar 04, 2009 12:01 am

My only concern would be the eyes.

As Disney animators found out long ago, there just ain't no substitute for round eyes (and this includes ovals). Deviations from this seldom are successful, at least for longer animations (you can get away with almost anything if you stick to under 20 minutes).

The problems come in lid and pupil movements, some of which get pretty convoluted in order to look "right". Just a thought -- in stills almost any shape eye will work.

human · Post by **human** » Wed Mar 04, 2009 12:06 am

Hmmm.

Didn't Bugs Bunny have eyes this shape?

Genete · Post by **Genete** » Wed Mar 04, 2009 12:38 am

What about Eugene H. Krabs from SpongeBob SquarePants? It has very well done extremely oval eyes!
http://spongebob.wikia.com/wiki/Eugene_H._Krabs
-G

Acochran_89 · Post by **Acochran_89** » Wed Mar 04, 2009 1:56 am

Well he did say if you stick to something under twenty minutes, and spongebob is under twenty minutes i'm pretty sure

but yeah, i actually did consider doing plain round eyes, but I thought this eye shape helped bring out a child like appearance. And the short I'm working on definately won't be over 20 minutes lol. but i'll keep that in mind when I get to the actual animation part

right now my only concern that i'm forseeing myself having is creatng a decent walk cycle with her. I'm not sure how to work around the night gown covering her legs and making it look like her feet are just wobbling underneath her lol.

mkelley · Post by **mkelley** » Wed Mar 04, 2009 2:13 am

Sorry, but this character's eyes aren't oval -- and I said anyway that ovals were okay (doesn't anyone really read things anyone writes around here? Sigh). The eyes to me don't look oval or symmetrical at all.

What Disney found (since I apparently have to spell it out for some here) is that non-symmetrical eyes are very difficult to deal with in terms of lids and pupils because things don't move smoothly -- you move one pupil to the upper right of one eye and the upper right of another and it has to move a different distance, and this doesn't translate well. I'm just passing on what Disney found, of course: I'm sure there are many here who know better.

And the original poster was asking for concerns -- and I told him what mine would be. If he didn't want that, I would assume he wouldn't ask for them.

Acochran_89 · Post by **Acochran_89** » Wed Mar 04, 2009 2:17 am

I'm just passing on what Disney found, of course: I'm sure there are many here who know better.

lol..nice

mkelley: I appreciate your feedback and will definately consider it when i actually get to the animation portion of this. You're correct, if i didn't want to hear it, I wouldn't have asked

and if anyone else has criticisms or such feel free to share!! I'm here to learn more about something I like doing, and that's impossible if noone tells you want you're doing wrong.

slowtiger · Post by **slowtiger** » Wed Mar 04, 2009 10:45 am

I'd like to see this one in several different poses, and especially more views of the head to judge the volume. I'd expect the hair to cause trouble in turns because the volume isn't defined clearly. Also I miss a neck.

I agree with mkelley - the eyes look eerie to me. That's because it (the one I see) is bent a little, making it appear concave which isn't natural for an eye. Additionally it gives the child a frightened expression by default.

DanFromFaction · Post by **DanFromFaction** » Wed Mar 04, 2009 10:10 pm

Very cute! I like it.