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Export animation in best quality

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Hello all, I have been using the Moho Software to animate a script I had lying around, and would like to export it to a movie file. There are a lot of options and the standard option exports in very Lo-Quality.

Instead of trying every option, I thought Id ask here for some tips; could anyone tell me how to export an animation in the best possible quality?

Greetings!

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Post by Víctor Paredes »

personally I export to mov with png quality and million of colors+.
I decided the size of the scene depending how it will be used in the final composition. for example, to a character who uses no more than a quarter of the tv screen I define no more than 1000 pixels of height and width.

It's the way I use when the final composition i not made in AS but in After Effects.
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Post by totonka »

Thanks for the answer.

I made the whole anmation in Moho, and would like to export it in the best quality... is there a way to have an entire film exported in good quality out of Moho?
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Post by Víctor Paredes »

hola, no me había fijado en que eres de perú, ¡saludos desde chile! (y sin resentimientos estúpidos de esos que nos inventan en el colegio).
creo que para mantener la calidad de un video la mejor opción es, primero, guardar todos los archivos con que lo hiciste. quizá algún día cuando llegue la súper ultra hhhhd te pidan que lo renderees diez veces a su tamaño y para eso es siempre bueno mantener los originales.
segundo, si lo quieres para tele, bastará con usar las medidas 720 x 480 si es NTSC o 720 x 576 si es PAL. Aunque duplicar esas medidas no vendría mal a la hora de tener un video con mejor calidad.
Ahora, en cuanto a formatos de exportación, un avi o un mov sin compresión siempre va a mantener la calidad (pero también tendrá un peso gigantesco). una secuencia de imágenes png también mantiene la calidad y el canal alpha, si es que te interesa tener los fondos transparentes, pero necesitarás otro programa como premiere, para montar todas esas imágenes y convertirlas en un video.

Si lo que quieres es compartir un video que pese poco y tenga una calidad decente, puedes exportar a mov h.264. Sin embargo, no existe un consenso de cuál es el mejor compresor para exportar, esto que te digo te lo recomiendo yo desde mi propia experiencia, pero son muchas variables las que juegan. Lo mejor es que vayas probando de a poquito con el tiempo y veas cuál te convence más a ti.

En fin, si tienes cualquier duda, sólo pregunta (o busca en el foro, la mayoría de las cosas que uno piensa otro ya las pensó antes). y si necesitas ayuda en español, bueno, acuérdate de mí.
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Post by chucky »

Hi totonka,
Without contradicting Selgin who gave you perfect advice about resolution, could I suggest that if you want to have your animation viewed in other countries that might use PAL, that a higher screen rez might be an option.
720 x 576 x25 fps is standard def PAL. widescreen is 768x576.
Its always better to start with a higher rez, you would have to rerender to get the correct fps though. I can't wait till we are all using a standard HD format (1920×1200 resolution.....yum), ...and we can leave old ntsc in the past.
This is just some additional information, I understand that for your purposes Selgins answer is the best.
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Post by totonka »

Hi Chucky, Hola Selgin,

thanks for your answers. I tried what you suggested Selgin, but couldnt do it. With Quicktimemovie and h264, the film only exported one frame; and otherwise I couldnt find the option of the resolution you spoke about (there are a couple of different options to export on PAL and NTCS, but I am not sure which one to use).

I see that the best way to maintain quality is to export the frames in .png, but in this way I would have to regulate the speed again in the eidting programm (final cut). The problem here is that I am quite happy with the rythm i created in moho...

Maybe the problem is that Im using Moho and you guys are using Anime Studio? :?

Bueno, de nuevo te agradezco - es muy bueno encontrar un "fellow latinoamericano" por aca! And I very much like your cuervo and the walking banana!!
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H.264 doesn't export from programs which render one frame after another. Try MPEG-4 instead, it's good enough. Or render with the "animation"-codec first and transfer to H.264 in another program, like iMovie.

The presets (PAL, NTSC etc) are not the only dimensions you can set your project to. You can set your project dimensions to whatever you like. I use HDTV (1920 x 1080px), you could use whatever fits your target format. Just type in the correct numbers.

The speed ... although computers can play back any video frame rate between 1 and 60 fps easily, I stick to the standard frame rates of video and film because I need to deliver files to broadcasters. If I, for a certain effect, animate in AS at 12 fps, I render that file, and within another program I convert it to 24 fps, thus getting 2 frames of each original key.

(Standard frame rates are: 24 fps for film, 30 fps for US TV, and 25 fps for european TV.)

Moho/AS are still pretty much the same, so your problems have a different spurce.
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Post by J. Baker »

If you're using windows, the lagarith codec is lossless. I use it all the time. ;)
http://www.videohelp.com/tools/Lagarith ... ideo_Codec
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Post by totonka »

Thanks slowtiger for the tips. I exported in HDV now and it looks a bit better, but it is not optimal. I believe that I will wait until I finish the entire animation and export it to .PNG and work on the rythm afterwards in the editing programm.

I cant imagine how other people get their animations out of Moho in an optimal quality (to show on a festival, for example).

Also, thanks J. Baker, I work on an Macintosh though...

Cheers!
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