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Export image sequence with 24 frames/ sec

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In all our projects we always export our files from Moho in PSD sequence. This is to take advantage of the
layer preservation in Adobe After Effects.
The one issue faced is that sequences coming from Moho unlike some software will always have 30 frames per sec and the
editor has to go through each and every layer to change it back to 24 frames in order to sync the audio and restore the playback speed.

I have looked around for an Adobe After Effects script that would batch convert footage but I haven't found any.

Is this something that can be fixed in Moho or is there a workaround?


here is the video demonstrating the issue
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Re: Export image sequence with 24 frames/ sec

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That doesn't sound right; a PSD Image Sequence does not have a frame rate embedded. My guess is that your After Effects is interpreting the footage at 30 fps because it's currently set to do that.

I don't normally render to PSD from Moho so, to be sure, I set up a 24 fps Moho project and rendered a 24 frame animation as a PSD Image Sequence. The result was 24 PSD files as expected. Then, in Ae, I imported the footage, and it correctly imported to a comp at 24 fps. (All my defaults are set to 24 fps.)

My suggestion is to check your Ae default settings. Is your comp set to 24 fps? Click on the Comp icon to create a new comp, and make sure the new comp's fps is set to 24. This will become the new default when future comps are created. (Well, until it's changed again, anyway.) For any existing comps, press cmd-K and check the fps.

If the comp is already 24 fps and your footage is still importing at 30 fps, then your Interpret Footage setting must be wrong. Right-click on the PSD clip in the Project window and choose Interpret Footage/Main, and set it to 24 fps. Click OK and the footage will now be interpreted at the correct 24 fps. To make sure this becomes the default interpretation, Right-click Interpretation/Remember Interpretation, and it should now be your new default.

BTW, I prefer to use Moho's Layer Comps and Moho Exporter to output my layers as PNG Image Sequences. There's nothing technically wrong with rendering to PSD but, IMO, rendering as PNG from Layer Comps is more efficient to render with (since you're rendering only the optimal layer combinations you need,) and it's easier to make changes/corrections with for re-renders since you only need to re-render the changed frames/layers. Rending to separate PNG image sequences is also easier to replace and work with in After Effects.

Either way, though, if you render at 24 fps, you need to be sure Ae is importing at the same frame rate.

I hope this helps.
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First thing to do: check Moho project properties whether FPS is correct.
You may also check to export exactly one second and count the resulting image files - should be same number as FPS.
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Or that. (slowtiger's reply seems more obvious.) :D
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Always make the simple mistakes first.
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Re: Export image sequence with 24 frames/ sec

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Thank you so much for that speedy response Greenlaw and slowtiger.

@Greenlaw am grateful for the insightful advice. I have applied your solution and it worked perfectly fine, all sequences adopt the default frame rate (24) as adjusted.

We used to use the layer compg option in Moho but the process of setting it up all the time was less competitive when working on emergency projects as opposed to .psd format.
I have been an intermediate user of AE for years now, yet I have always missed that option,
thanks for your guidance.


@Slowtiger I once did that test as a standard debugging procedure (sometimes the problem that simple yet we rush to the "big guns" . As indicated above turns out AE had a default
import frame rate of 30fps.

Thank you very much, my good Sir


Here is the location of that option in AE just in case someone else needs to know
In After Effects (win): Edit/preference/import

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1uhdBKI ... sp=sharing
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Jx wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:08 pm We used to use the layer compg option in Moho but the process of setting it up all the time was less competitive when working on emergency projects as opposed to .psd format.
I can understand that. I use Layer Comps all the time but one of its shortcomings is that the settings are not natively transferable. In general, I try to try to keep the Layer comps pretty straightforward: Character(s), Background, Foreground...and since I tend to group things this way when I'm setting up the project, the Layer Comps take only minute to set up. Once it's set up and the project is saved, the settings are reusable in Moho Exporter by simply clicking the Split button when you're ready to render (be sure to set your output path first). You can also save a render profile from Moho Exporter and reuse that (this option remembers your output path.)

But sometimes, I'll create a character rig with complicated Layer Comps for specific matte layers to use for special shading and effects in Ae. Unfortunately, Moho cannot remember a character's Layer Comps settings when you import it. Luckily, synthsin75 has created a script called Import Layer Comps that imports a character project along with its Layer Comp settings...I highly recommend it if you need this capability.
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Re: Export image sequence with 24 frames/ sec

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Thanks.
I will look into it (Do some tests) and see how we can take advantage of it in our production pipeline?
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Glad to help!

If you're interested, I'm working on a tutorial video describing my Moho to Ae workflow, and it would be good to get feedback from another Moho user that composites with Ae.

I'm a bit behind on this video because I have a few basic 'quick start' videos I want to get out first, but will let you know when the Layer Comps/Import Layer Comps video is out.
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That would be awesome. Thanks for the invite, and looking forward to checking out your video.
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