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Side View Head Turn

Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 12:09 pm
by DarthFurby
Been a while since I posted any animation.

This one's for the forum.



Click here to watch:


http://www.darthfurby.com/sideview.html



Here's the Anime Studio Pro file:


http://www.darthfurby.com/sideview.anme



Everything is vector export friendly. Enjoy!

Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 12:24 pm
by DK
Nice work Darth! How did you get the 3D head rotation?

D.K

Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 12:34 pm
by AmigaMan
Wow!! Looks great. I must take a look at the file tonight and see how you did it :D

Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 12:57 pm
by Touched
Love your character designs.

head turn

Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 10:02 pm
by Patrick McClintock
Nice proportions!
How do I view the file code?

Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 10:11 pm
by Nephilim
Copy and paste it into a some type of text document, then save it and open it
with Anime Studio.

Re: head turn

Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 11:46 pm
by Genete
Patrick McClintock wrote:Nice proportions!
How do I view the file code?
Right click and save as...

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 12:06 am
by DarthFurby
D.K. - Thanks! Two actions and two bones did most of the work, but I used props to enhance depth, like the feathers rotating in 3d space to help sell the head turn. Only the feathers are 3d, the head turn is 2d vector morph using actions, bones, and point motion.

The nice thing about actions is that it stores keyframe data across different layers. Since my characters usually have so many layers(eye layer, mouth layer, nose layer, etc..) this saves me from having to manually move points on every layer every time I want a side view or 3/4 shot. Just click the button and the action automatically keys the layers and properties I want keyed at that frame. Also, modifying an action automatically updates every frame on the timeline where the action is referenced(much like symbols in Flash.)

AmigaMan - Thanks a lot! The file is a bit laggy because I used the particle system to grow the wings. Anime Studio has a heart attack if I so much as blink at the particle system. Just delete the wings if you want to study the head turn lag free.

Touched - My character designs are mostly inspired by Saturday morning cartoons, comic books and Mad Magazine. It wasn't until college that I got hit with a bad case of Anime fever. Love your stuff on Drow Tales.

Patrick - Thanks! As Nephilim says, just right click and "save target."

Hi Genete! The next head turn I make will hopefully be with a bone controlled point motion rig. Wish me luck!

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 12:21 am
by DK
Hi Darth. Thanks for the explanation. I'd love to try playing with a 3D bone rig myself as I have a grounding in 3D but with AS I'm finding it really hard to find any tutorials on starting with it. Maybe I've missed something along the ways but I'm not sure if all this 3D bone stuff in AS is based on custom scripts or if it is a native tool that I'm missing somewhere in the interface. If anyone can point to some good starter tuts on 3D bone rigging I would be more than greatful.

Cheers
DK

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 12:29 am
by Genete
Very good set up. Very good drawings
Very intelligent use of actions to store a complete point "keyframe" of a lot of vector layers at the same time. In this way tou can insert a keyframe for a lot of sublayer with only one click.

A new trick learned. :wink:

Thankyou very much for share the file.
Congratulations.


Genete

EDITED: I did'n see your posts because I was studying the file.
Hi Genete! The next head turn I make will hopefully be with a bone controlled point motion rig. Wish me luck!
Really. I'm so happy if some uses my 3D rig!!!!!! Best whishes. Ask me any question if you get muddled up. Good luck!!

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 12:34 am
by DarthFurby
It's not really 3d bones so much as using bones to move vector points for you. I don't really know how to build one yet, but I am studying Genete's bone rig tutorial which you can find here:

http://www.lostmarble.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7911

How cool would it be to have a 2d model that can do it all? I think Genete's bone rig is a step in that direction. Not really 3d, but something that will have the same function of a 3d model while preserving the charm and imperfection of 2d design.

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 12:43 am
by Genete
DK wrote:Hi Darth. Thanks for the explanation. I'd love to try playing with a 3D bone rig myself as I have a grounding in 3D but with AS I'm finding it really hard to find any tutorials on starting with it. Maybe I've missed something along the ways but I'm not sure if all this 3D bone stuff in AS is based on custom scripts or if it is a native tool that I'm missing somewhere in the interface. If anyone can point to some good starter tuts on 3D bone rigging I would be more than greatful.

Cheers
DK
I don't know if you are reffering to the 3D stuff that heyvern have done with the "one bone turn face" or my pseudo 3D bone rig. selgin also have used heyvern's head turn thech: serach for "chinchilla" in share your work (very interesting).
If you are interested into my 3D rig samples you can see the 3D hand skeleton, 3D tutorial, realistic 3D eye, and 3D leg topics under Tips and Thecniques forum. Please fell free to ask what ever you need. I'll be glad to make as many explanations as my english skills can do.
I'm working now in the 3D leg but I'm a litlle ... how to say.... blocked. The foot is so difficult to achieve.

Always ready to help.:wink:
Genete

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 12:45 am
by Genete
DarthFurby wrote:It's not really 3d bones so much as using bones to move vector points for you. I don't really know how to build one yet, but I am studying Genete's bone rig tutorial which you can find here:

http://www.lostmarble.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7911

How cool would it be to have a 2d model that can do it all? I think Genete's bone rig is a step in that direction. Not really 3d, but something that will have the same function of a 3d model while preserving the charm and imperfection of 2d design.
Yeah! I'm a happy man. :) I'm not alone! ... :cry: ... :D :D :D.
Good luck again. any question is welcome.
Genete

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 12:55 am
by DK
Hi Genete,

Without putting you to any trouble, would it be possible to see a VERY basic rig with say two bones. One bone that rotates on the Y axis with a child bone that rotates on the X,Z planes maybe parented to a simple lyer with a couple of ovals that rerpresents eyes? I just need to grasp a basic understanding of the scripts or process that allows the bones to rotate in 3D space. soprry to put you to any bother, but I think it may benefit quite a few AS users who would like to get into this area along with you.

Cheers
D.K

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 12:55 am
by Touched
Genete wrote:use of actions to store a complete point "keyframe" of a lot of vector layers at the same time. In this way tou can insert a keyframe for a lot of sublayer with only one click.
That's how I'm doing it, as well! Actions are indispensable for this kind of work!