Animating old school style

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Gregor
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Animating old school style

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The last time I done any animation was at college a few years ago. The animation I done was hand drawn. It was quite a primitive process and I'm sure it's obsolete now. What I would do is animate in the same way that someone would make a flick book. Once I had done all my drawings I would place the first drawing under the camera and record it as one frame. I would then add the second drawing, record that and so on and so on. I was wondering, can you use a similar process with moho 5 where you import drawings and record them one frame at a time?
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Moho wasn't really designed for frame by frame animation.
Please have a look at Tutorial 5.7.
For frame by frame animation try Toon Boom Express
you get it for free with "computer arts" issue 115.

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But someone had written a script (check the Scripting section here) expressly to import scanned drawings into switch layers, and that would seem to do the trick. Even if Moho isn't "meant" for it, it's expandable enough that perhaps we can make it jump through the hoops you want. That said, Nolan's right. It's not really Moho's focus.

Now for my opinion. Hand drawn animation may seem "primitive", but it isn't obselete just yet. Done with a deft touch, there still isn't anything as expressive.

But you can use Moho to that purpose. Fish around, there are a bunch of threads towards that purpose. I had noticed an old film school friend of mine (an animation director on "The Iron Giant") is quite into using software to ease the load, but from his work I 'spect he still draws out most of the keyframes by hand.
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Post by Nolan Scott »

7feet wrote:
“ Now for my opinion. Hand drawn animation may seem "primitive", but it isn't obsolete just yet. Done with a deft touch, there still isn't anything as expressive.”


Thank you Brian, it’s so nice to know that I’m not the only one
who thinks that way.
Hand-drawn animation is just so different and far from “primitive”,
and I hope it will never die.

But Moho in “his or her” different approach of animation is such
a wonderful tool to work with - I really enjoy this all the time.
For someone like me who has to do everything by himself
Moho is just the “Tool of Choice”.

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Nolan - But I don't see why that would be an issue. It's kind of an apples and oranges thing. I love traditional animation, but though I could spend an unending week or two if it was a stop-motion shot, I could not for the life of me ever get done if it was a 4 or 5 sec trad animation shot that was needed. And right there is the reason I love (not too small a statement) Moho. Without it, I wouldn't do any 2D animation work. I've been told that I have really extraordinary patience for stop-motion work. A shot that goes at 3 frames a day is just fine. But my sculptor head for some reason balks at 3 frames a day if the work is 2D. So a week drawing and rigging characters that I can just thereafter make run around seems just fine in my head. It ain't Disney, but it's pretty damn cool...

..and if I had a gig doing this, I'd probably do nothing else, and be even more vitamin D deficient than I already am, but I keep getting jobs where I have to go out in the world every once in a while. Hell, I could think of worse things than getting paid to geek out in front of this damned infernal machine. I'm just not comfortable drawing every frame, but this lets me get close enough to my "god, I'd love to do that" dreams to make me happy. But though Moho isn't really "designed" for it, I believe there are still clunkier solutions out there.

In some ways, and youse trad guys out dere could tell me, it seems like a lot of commercial stuff that looks to me to be done on 4's or 6's (is that evil or what?) could have a pretty new dress thrown on it with a 2 minute skeleton thrown inside it for some interframe movement. Myself, I've seen vast amounts of anime it might help, which seems to be constrained by the vast amount of work that needs to be cranked out. Even if it's presented as "the style", I 'spect the animators in the grind would prefer the stuff to move better.

Is that a rant? Whateva...
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