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my own cartoon
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 7:31 am
by nifikail
Hi all, I'm a newbie here in this forum, and a totally beginner in animating.
I still learn to make my own videos.
and here's my videos so far.
- lipsync
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJqOjH7ZREY
This is my very first video I ever uploaded to youtube, there are some other videos I made, but they're totally sucks, worthless to watch, just about 2 secs long 
I tried to use Papagayo here, to lipsync a famous song in my country.
Not much body movements (almost none), just mouth animating here.
- "Bola"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0rT23IvPkY
the title mean "Ball", that is Indonesian language.
This is my second video, made with old Anime studio 5.6, no voice over, no background music, no background layer, just like that, a ball and a 'cyanide' style character.
- "Bola (part II)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiQidhMpY-4
This is my third video, the sequel to the previous one. in this video, I used a background scenery (even just a flat land and a tree), and I learned how to make my own logo in my videos, sound effect generating, etc. Still, no voice over (I don't have good recording equipment), no background music (except for the credit).
(By the way, how to embed youtube videos in this forum?)
please feel free to give comment and critics, so I can do better.
Sorry for my bad English.
Thank you very much.

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 10:33 am
by funksmaname
Hey Nifikail,
lipsync is fine, but it really needs some movement, and less cycled action on the hand too.
Bola & Bola 2 are actually pretty good! the animation and interaction with the ball is done really well.
Unfortunately, you can't embed youtube videos on this forum.
Good luck with your future videos!
Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 5:31 am
by nifikail
About that lipsync vid, it my first long video, And I have no Idea how to move the other body parts naturally when a solo singer singing in the stage
Thanks a lot for your comments, I really need it.
anyone else have an opinion for me?
Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:15 pm
by jahnocli
On the 'lipsync' video, I was very conscious of the singer's right hand (on the fret) not moving at all. Kind of spoilt it for me. The lipsync wasn't very good, but it was a damn sight better than my first attempt!
The other two -- well, I liked the story-telling aspect. I thought from that angle they were both pretty good. Tell a good story and the animation can be quite poor without anybody complaining! The animation was OK, IMO, some nice little movements...
Looking forward to more - that's always a good sign!
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:40 am
by nifikail
jahnocli wrote:On the 'lipsync' video, I was very conscious of the singer's right hand (on the fret) not moving at all. Kind of spoilt it for me. The lipsync wasn't very good, but it was a damn sight better than my first attempt!
Yes, I didn't move that hand at all, because I focused on the mouth sync, but I'm doing my homework making a new version of this vid, which better body parts movement.
jahnocli wrote:The other two -- well, I liked the story-telling aspect. I thought from that angle they were both pretty good. Tell a good story and the animation can be quite poor without anybody complaining! The animation was OK, IMO, some nice little movements...
Looking forward to more - that's always a good sign!
Thanks for your advice, I'll do exactly what you said, I'll make a good story first, and working hard for the animation.
thanks a lot!

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 9:44 am
by bowen
idn't understand much, but very informative thread!

Appreciate your work!

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 10:06 am
by nifikail
Thanks, Bowen bro

I tried my best shot to make it as clear as possible

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 11:29 am
by SvenFoster
@nifikail I cant comment on the lipsync as I moved on to the Ball animations quickly (lips seemed ok, hands were a little distracting as I play guitar)
The Ball ones had some really nice movements in them

the interactions with the ball were good..i liked
The only things that caught my eye in a bad way were the walks.. the legs were ok but the lack of movement in the body made it seem wrong (with the exception of the guy that sneaked on the screen and tippy-toed/sneaked on.. that worked as he was lightfooted.. )
I enjoyed them.. keep it up..good stuff
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 10:36 pm
by nifikail
SvenFoster wrote:The only things that caught my eye in a bad way were the walks.. the legs were ok but the lack of movement in the body made it seem wrong (with the exception of the guy that sneaked on the screen and tippy-toed/sneaked on.. that worked as he was lightfooted.. )
thanks for your input

body movement is my weakness, I always forget to move them, too focused on one thing, and forget everything else, that is my fault
I will fix that in the next video.
Thanks a lot

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 4:24 am
by shift
Good work especially Bola 1 and 2. THe lip sync was also good. As for the body movement, how exactly are you trying to move the arms?
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 5:06 am
by nifikail
shift wrote:Good work especially Bola 1 and 2. THe lip sync was also good. As for the body movement, how exactly are you trying to move the arms?
I want the arms moves naturally, but I don't know how to sync the arm's movements with the guitar sound, then I just put some keyframes for the left hand randomly, and then copy - paste the rest
Thanks for your comment.

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 5:51 am
by shift
What I would do if I were you is is set some key frames very close together then copy and paste them so you have enough points to work with. Then listen to the music to pick out patterns, then shift the key frames around to match the pace of the music.
For faster sections put the key frames closer together then spread them out for slower parts of the music. The idea is to ensure that the arm makes a full up and down motion for each note or up a note, down a note.
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 8:58 am
by SvenFoster
Hey welcome.. as I say really liked the balls..
for the walks, you probably just need a little up and down just to give them some weight. keep it up.
nifikail wrote:SvenFoster wrote:The only things that caught my eye in a bad way were the walks.. the legs were ok but the lack of movement in the body made it seem wrong (with the exception of the guy that sneaked on the screen and tippy-toed/sneaked on.. that worked as he was lightfooted.. )
thanks for your input

body movement is my weakness, I always forget to move them, too focused on one thing, and forget everything else, that is my fault
I will fix that in the next video.
Thanks a lot
