How to make styles work?

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heyvern
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Post by heyvern »

I am going to try and explain as well as I can how to use styles and what to expect when selecting or creating shapes.

The style palette settings are the KEY to the whole thing. Look at the style palette. Whatever is set there is the DEFAULT style for any newly created "shape", whether you use the add point with auto fill, the polygon tool, paint bucket etc. Whatever style is set in the style palette is the current default shape style applied to NEW shapes.

Also take note of the "Advanced" check box (pro). This expands the style palette and shows named styles as well in the drop down selection menus at the bottom of the palette.

If you create a NAMED STYLE with NO SHAPE SELECTED a new shape created will use BOTH the default style AND add the named style from the list. The named style is applied but the style palette itself will show the default styles. It could look confusing. You need the advanced check box activated to see named styles applied to a shape.

After you create any new shape, that style BECOMES THE DEFAULT STYLE for new shapes.

If you select a shape, THAT SHAPES STYLE BECOMES THE DEFAULT for new shapes.
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Style check boxes (fill/stroke/effects/line width etc etc.

When a shape is selected and there are NO named or saved styles applied the checkboxes for the fill color and stroke color/stroke width etc will not be "grayed out". These are the checkboxes to the RIGHT OF THE COLOR BOX. The checkbox to the left is for turning fills/stroks on or off and is different.

If you have a named style applied to a shape those checkboxes become "active" but only if those same check boxes are checked in the named style. The "default" or "base" style of a shape can override the settings of a named style applied to the shape by checking those boxes.

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Simple example of how I use named styles with check boxes.

I like to have control over all of the strokes of everything in a project or file. I create a named style called "default stroke". I UNCHECK the fill color box in that named style. This prevents the fill of that style from being used.

I leave stroke width and stroke color checked. That way I can instantly change the width of ALL strokes by changing ONE style.

If I need to over ride the width or color of any shapes stroke I just select that shape and CHECK THE BOXES in the style palette. This OVER RIDES the named style and I can set those things to something different for that shape.

Normally when using AS in the beginning of creating a new character or project I do not set styles or worry about color at all. I just draw "empty" vector shapes. When ready to "colorize" I create all of my named styles I will need; default stroke, skin, skin shading, shirt, pants, etc.

At that point I select the vectors for shapes and use the shape creation tool, create the shape, then apply the named style with the style palette menus for that shape. Or I will create one shape and use the "copy" button at the bottom of the style and paste it on other shapes. Or you could use the paint bucket tool for the same result.

Paint bucket and copy/paste buttons will copy and apply NAMED STYLES applied to a shape.

It's all very logical to me. However, I had the whole thing figured out the first week of using Moho many years ago. ;)

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Post by fracturedray »

This has been very helpful. I have one question to add to this.

I want two simple things.
1. A fill color and stroke values.
2. One main, easy to change effect, "Shaded".

Been doing lots of tests and I like the results of Shaded on the Shape Style the most.

I would create a style called "fill"
I'd leave on the fill and strokes (right check marks).
Then change the color to gray or something.

Then I create a style called "shade".
I turn on only the fill (right check mark).
I turn on "Shaded" in the Effect 1
In "Shaded" window I leave the "Light Angle" alone. I set the "Offset" to 18 and the "Blur" to 0. I turn on "Shadow only" Wishing this means only the shadow would be applied.

I would select "shade" style and create a shape.This will make "shade" in "Style 1". Then set "fill to "Style 2". On screen I get exactly what I want.

But when I render I get the outline and the shade but no fill. Is this a render bug? Or is the Shade only button I turned on, overriding the "fill" style?

The reason I wanted to do this is so I can easily modify the shade on all shapes at once. Like I said the shape style shade looks better than the Layer Shade or the Group shade.

Only thing I can think of is maybe making a copy of all my layers and applying the shade style there so that it keeps the fill on the other layers.

Any other less wasteful solutions/ideas are welcome.

How do I report bugs?

-ray
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Post by fracturedray »

I love how writing out a problem helps me figure out the solution.

I tried this before, at least I thought I had but it did not work last time.

The solution.

Create a Style called "shade_this_is_driving_me_crazy" :)
Make the fill active.
Set the fill color to "0" in the Alpha channel.
Turn on Effect 1 to "Shaded".
Leave Light Angle alone.
Set offset to 18.
Set blur to 0
And LEAVE "Shadow only" OFF

Apply this style to Style 1 of the shape and a fill style to Style 2.

Sorry for the fuss. :)

-ray
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Post by ROBBY »

I spent all morning tearing out the last few hairs of my bald head try to get Styles to work. Sometimes they did, then soon or later they didn't.
After reading though his thread, Turns Out:

Prior to creating the new style, I had clicked on "RESET" in the Style box (lower right side next to copy and paste). That was filling up the Defaults for fill stoke and width with red check marks.
Once that occurred, nothing worked for me with styles.
Even closing the file and creating an entire new file left them active. Re-clicking reset changed nothing.

What did work, was closing Anime Studio (I'm a Pro 8 user) and then opening a whole new file. Then every tutorial I tried worked just fine.

However, if you find yourself in this position, clicking on "Paste" next to the reset button, clears the active red check marks and styles behave.
Hope this helps someone.
-Robby
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Post by ROBBY »

Hey, scratch that lost part about click "Paste" to get rid of the checked boxes. Now it's not working. So far , if I click on reset, my styles are sunk
uggh all over again.
-ROb
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Post by jonbo »

Yeah, styles are confusing. Here's about the best tutorial on styles. It's from the other forum but the guy who made it is very knowledgeable about AS and still posts here from time to time.

http://www.kelleytown.com/forum/animato ... PIC_ID=997
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Post by wovenskin »

I was having so much trouble with this, I was convinced ASP8 was buggy! But finally, found a video that explains it very well. Thanks cartoonzack!
http://youtu.be/o9EO6gdXHIQ
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